Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Thompson, Guiliani, McCain, Romney....Nader???
Wow, what a mixed bag to pick from! For the last few months I have listened to friends, co-workers and family talk about their points of view on the future.
First you have those that cannot get past the whole Bush issue. Bush sent us to war, plain and simple, should this war be over-----well, yeah. Do we know all the details and what that entails?? No. Should American men and women continue to die for Iraq? Hell no. One good bomb, and we would have taken care of that whole country. But instead, we are trying to educate them and help them create a democracy. This to me, is a lost cause. I would have no problem obliterating a country that continues to create terrorist.
Second of all.....Hillary Clinton?? Barack Obama? John Edwards? Could the Democrats be so stupid as to have the three worst D candidates in the history of time?
* A woman president? HAHAHAHAH! Yeah.....and Elvis is my next door neighbor. A woman does not belong in the presidential seat. Especially an evil one like HIllary. How can America respect a woman, who stood by her husband through numerous affairs? What does that say about her integrity? What about the White House cover-ups? Is she really a Lesbian as rumors say? Would she handle the pressure of the presidency? Could she get us out of war? Would she allow America to be turned over to the illegals and foreigners? If Hillary wins the presidency, I am moving to Mexico....I would have a better shot there, than I will in the US.
* Obama....oh yeah, here is another good candidate. A black man, with little to no experience, who cannot keep his position straight and the only thing you ever hear him talking about is how he is better than Hillary. Well no kidding Obama......you might be better than a woman, but your still a nobody with minority status. You belong in the White House as much as I belong in Harlem.
* Edwards...oh blech! I mean, come on people! A personal injury lawyer! A PERSONAL INJURY LAWYER???!?!?!? He lies for a living!! He manipulates words and thoughts as his career! and this person wants to be President? I mean, he ran with Kerry for crying out loud....the main is a moron. Not only that, but his wife is diagnosed with terminal cancer and instead of stepping out of the race, he runs forward like an unloving and empty soul. Yeah, America, let's vote him in.
*Guiliani--New Yorker, liberal/moderate, believes in Abortion....what more can I say.
*Romney--could be good. Moral, family values, wants to see America safe, supports the war....but...is he too soft? Will his religion get in the way? Can he pull us out of Iraq? Will he protect us from the illegal aliens that are taking over our country and destroying our borders?
*McCain--this guy is CRAZY. A veteran that doesn't support the war and therefore, doesn't support the troops? What kind of war hero are you? This guy has had years to make up his mind on his position of the war, and he waffles each year. America doesn't need a man that suffers from a napoleon complex. McCain is out.
* Thompson---Umm...not sure. Seems straight laced, experienced, but does an acting career and run through the Senate give him what he needs to run to this country. We will see.
What's it mean when people like Nader are looking better than the candidates? Or that people are hoping we have a "Ross Perot" appear out of nowhere?
People need to quit blaming Bush for everything. Quit being so simple minded and believing whatever you hear on TV or watch on your Michael Moore movies. War is war...it happens, whether an R is in the house or a D. Doesn't anyone remember 9/11. They bombed us....they hurt us in our own country. We had to retaliate. We are America and no one can take that from us.
But, I am not holding my breath for the future. Enjoy your rights while you have them....one of those Democrats get into office, and those rights will disappear about as quickly as a Krispy Kreme doughnut at a Weight Watchers meeting.
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I don't have the time to comment on your view of the Iraq war, well actually I do, but I'll keep it short and say it's ridiculous.
Hillary-the most competent and least crazy of the D's, however she loves power more than she loves this country and that is dangerous. Don't get me wrong, she is a crazy liberal and I dislike her but unlike most liberals she at least exercises a tiny bit of pragmatism.
Obama-Flavor of the year but he'll get old. He has no experience, no proper undertanding of the world, and can't properly perform the duties.
John Edwards-wants nothing more than to be JFK, but the only corrolation I see is that he makes me want to get shot in the head.
Rudy-Very strong on the war on terror and proponent of tax cuts. I disagree with him on several social issus but at least he has the backbone to flat out say what he believes and i respect that. Perhaps, most importantly, he can win. Overall a great candidate.
Romney-Everything this man has ever touched has turned to gold. I don't see how anybody's religion could prevent them from doing their job...are you concerned that if we get bombed on a Sunday that he wait to respond until the Sabbath is over? Get real. And he has taken the absolute toughest stand on illegals of all the candidates. Overall, a great candidate.
McCain-Can't say enough about his sacrifice for our country, and I used to like him quite a bit. However, he is in his seventies now and is cranky and a little kooky. Overall, could be worse but definitely not preferable.
Thompson-The very definition of an empty suit. He reminds me of a soon to be former WA State Senator from Yakima, full of folksy talk to cover his glaring inadeqacies. What's even worse is he knows it, which is why he is waiting so long to join the race because he knows the it's only a few short months until the primaries and he wants to limit the amount of time that he can be found out. Overall, still better than any of the D's but would be a poor president.
Why would there be Krispy Kremes at a Weight Watchers meeting?
-The Desert Dweller
Oh yes, my view of the war is ridiculous. Right,....right....
I will tell you what is ridiculous....the fact that we think we can take a barbaric country and "civilize" them with democracy and our western ways....for every Iraqi we chosse to educate and "enlighten"...they are training to be terrorist. The only way to stop the continuing cycle of war and terrorism is to eliminate the problem completely.
No argument from me on your take of Obama, however I do not believe that Hilary is competent or capable of being anything more than an emotional power hungry female.
Whether you agree with me or not, is not my concern. I still believe that Romney's religion will come with some baggage and I am not interested in it.
Thompson...I think it is too early to tell what kind of candidate he will be.
McCain...first you want the war, then you dont want the war. First you support Bush, now you dont. Not interested in your flip flopping.
Desert Dweller...thanks for your input.
Yeah, the Iraq solution is definitely genocide, what was I thinking? I'm sure God would love nothing more to have an entire race of people destroyed rather than attempting to bring them into the light...good point.
Yeah, we should definitely elect a president who's faith doesn't come with any baggage...oh, wait, that doesn't exist. I actually looked it up and when Romney was Governor of a major state he actually made it illegal to have less than six wives and when he saved the Winter Olympics that were held in America, he brought us shame in the end when he replaced all the gold medals with golden plates from God. I think you're right, we'll dodge a mighty bullet there.
Bring them to the light? Hmm....yeah, that seems to be working so well.
The Lord tried to bring the people of Soddom and Gomorrah to the light, and look what happened to them. They had every opportunity to turn from their wicked ways, but instead chose to continue on their path of destruction, so the Lord destroyed them. Tell me how this is any different? How many more soldiers have to die so that we can civilize Iraq? How many more Americans have to be seperated from their families, loved one's, etc so that we can civilize Iraq? When is it enough and do you honestly think that we will make Iraq a hospitable nation?
I won't even dignify your childish sarcastic remarks regarding Romney with a response.
I'm not afraid to support my views, so I'll actually answer your questions one by one.
Obviously the biggest difference is that S&G was destroyed by God and not men. God made the judgment to destroy them and it is again up to God to destroy an entire peoples. We can surely hunt individual terrorists or groups of them, but the destruction of an entire civilization is not our decision. We can attack those who seek to destroy us but mass genocide is not up to us, it is for God to decide as he did with S&G. The people of Mesopotamia didn't go kill every person in Sodom...God did. At what point do you think we became wiser than God?
Another major difference is that there was only one righteous person living in all of Sodom and God said he would spare the city if there were a mere ten righteous people there. Do you think that there is only one righteous Middle Eastern person? Surely not. There definitely are evil people there but there is a lot (get it? a lot/Lot from Sodom...nice tie in) of good there as well.
As for the question about how many more soldiers must die to civilize Iraq? Of course the desirable answer would be none. However, the question itself is flawed. Besides being rhetorical, it presupposes that the only thing that they have died for is Iraqi interests. I believe that having Al Qaeda focus its efforts on Iraq has both kept us safer at home by diverting all their attention to the fight there (evidenced by the fact we haven't been attacked in six years) and it allows us to bring this menace out of the shadows to be killed. It is disheartening when one of our nation's soldiers dies, but it is an all volunteer army (meaning that nobody who wasn't willing to die for our country did die) and I don't believe they died for nothing.
As for when it will be enough, well it will be enough when we can leave there victorious. If we don't do that, then it will only embolden and motivate our enemies and improve their recruitment capabilities. We created a filthy mess there and if we have a shred of honor and dignity as a nation we'll clean up what we messed up. It's too late to debate whether or not to go in, we're already there and it is our duty to finish what started.
And do I think that we can make Iraq a hospitable nation? Yes, I do, well actually only they can change themselves but we can provide the support necessary to do so. The good General's progress report has shown that we are achieving success and we will be sending tens of thousands of soldiers back home this year. If you don't think that the uncivilized take a gander at Japan. This was an uncivilized nation, very militaristic, and they had plenty of suicide bombers. Now they have the second largest economy in the world and are undeniably peaceful and civilized...this change happened after we defeated them and a constitution was installed in their country. They stopped making balloon bombs and started making nintendos, not too bad. Will we achieve success in Iraq overnight, no, but that doesn't mean that it isn't realistic.
As for Romney, you originally questioned whether or not his religion will get in the way, and then you followed it up by saying that you aren't interested in his religious baggage. You haven't once qualified your opinion, you just stuck out there without offering a single piece of supporting evidence, which is all I was looking for. Yes, I was being sarcastic but I was making a legitimate point. How would his, or anybody else’s religion interfere with performing the duties of the Presidency? Unless they are Islamic, which may jeopardize their willingness to fight the war on terror, I just don't see it. Being a Quaker didn't stop President Nixon from doing is job, but being a bastard did. I just want you to support what you said with something concrete...you say there is some sort of problem there but you seemingly refuse to say what it is.
Oh, and for the record, I was blue state bill, pretending to be a crazy liberal to get a rise out of you but I thought you would figure out it was me.
Good response...I will responsd to your comments later....but you got one by me with the Blue State Bill identity. Didn't figure that out! and in fact, I am still not 100% sure who you are...I can only assume it is either MN or MC....
Please, MC hasn't said anything half that intellegent in his pathetic little life.-JT
Ok, for the life of me, I cannot figure out who JT is.....give me a nother clue....
well, i live in seattle and live at 500 W@%# Street...
Ok creepo. That is enough.
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